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		<title>By: Collin Blackman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collin Blackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and if u are looking for the graph in the uTube clip above it is here;

http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2008/10/20/63805.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and if u are looking for the graph in the uTube clip above it is here;</p>
<p><a href="http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2008/10/20/63805.aspx" >http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2008/10/20/63805.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Collin Blackman</title>
		<link>http://www.baybuzz.co.nz/archives/1729/comment-page-1/#comment-19041</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin Blackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And while this is USA focussed, if NZ Pollies sign anything we are in the same boat - rudderless.
http://www.rightsidenews.com/200911067159/energy-and-environment/lord-monckton-ambassador-bolton-and-the-copenhagen-treaty-reflections-on-a-conversation.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while this is USA focussed, if NZ Pollies sign anything we are in the same boat &#8211; rudderless.<br />
<a href="http://www.rightsidenews.com/200911067159/energy-and-environment/lord-monckton-ambassador-bolton-and-the-copenhagen-treaty-reflections-on-a-conversation.html" >http://www.rightsidenews.com/200911067159/energy-and-environment/lord-monckton-ambassador-bolton-and-the-copenhagen-treaty-reflections-on-a-conversation.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Collin Blackman</title>
		<link>http://www.baybuzz.co.nz/archives/1729/comment-page-1/#comment-19039</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin Blackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If u have any doubts about media accuracy check this out;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLxicwiBQ7Q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If u have any doubts about media accuracy check this out;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLxicwiBQ7Q" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLxicwiBQ7Q</a></p>
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		<title>By: Collin Blackman</title>
		<link>http://www.baybuzz.co.nz/archives/1729/comment-page-1/#comment-19038</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin Blackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noted science writer Fred Pearce - is that sort of like Noted film producer Al Gore.
Neither of those people will ever show that Man Made Greenhouse Gases cause Global Warming - look for weasel words;
might, could, likely, about, possible, models show,  and a fair bit of sensationalism. 

After all, they need sales of their works/efforts just as IPCC needs funding to continue.

And then Fred Pearce goes on to say -  &quot;trouble is, on the climate change front&quot; - now there is the standard method of lumping Man Made Greenhouse Gas with Climate change as if they move in the same direction at the same time by the same amount, but at least it does provide more spin - another Shell Game to get everyone looking in the wrong direction.

Expect them all to shy away from the temp drop since 2002 - if u doubt that comment, then Google - Professor Robert Lindzen and Lord Monckton - Listen to them they sound far more logical and reasonable than the popular myopic view of Made Made Greenhouse Gas induced Temperature Changes.

What is more scary, is that in December our Politicians will probably sign over 7% of our GDP to this new world government that is not even Elected. And because it is a Treaty, there is no &#039;Opt Out&#039; clause. Now THAT is Scary.

Why would they do this? probably because they have not read all 200 pages of the Treaty, but rely on their &#039;Advisors.&#039; At least some in Australia can see the damage of that plan. Google Alan Jones on 2GB - he interviews Lord Monckton.

Fortunately there are a few in the world that will stand up to this Junk Science of Al Gore et al and whats more - Kyoto, while well meaning, made 3% of difference in 100 years time and you can bet that the Copenhagen deal will be similarly well intentioned but Expensive and wrong in terms of bringing any change other than the size of our wallets.

Ignore the same regurgitated Alarmism and listen more carefully, if we can stop NZ being run by the African Countries, and that is the plan under this Copenhagen Deal, then we can manage our own affairs.

Wake up people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noted science writer Fred Pearce &#8211; is that sort of like Noted film producer Al Gore.<br />
Neither of those people will ever show that Man Made Greenhouse Gases cause Global Warming &#8211; look for weasel words;<br />
might, could, likely, about, possible, models show,  and a fair bit of sensationalism. </p>
<p>After all, they need sales of their works/efforts just as IPCC needs funding to continue.</p>
<p>And then Fred Pearce goes on to say &#8211;  &#8220;trouble is, on the climate change front&#8221; &#8211; now there is the standard method of lumping Man Made Greenhouse Gas with Climate change as if they move in the same direction at the same time by the same amount, but at least it does provide more spin &#8211; another Shell Game to get everyone looking in the wrong direction.</p>
<p>Expect them all to shy away from the temp drop since 2002 &#8211; if u doubt that comment, then Google &#8211; Professor Robert Lindzen and Lord Monckton &#8211; Listen to them they sound far more logical and reasonable than the popular myopic view of Made Made Greenhouse Gas induced Temperature Changes.</p>
<p>What is more scary, is that in December our Politicians will probably sign over 7% of our GDP to this new world government that is not even Elected. And because it is a Treaty, there is no &#8216;Opt Out&#8217; clause. Now THAT is Scary.</p>
<p>Why would they do this? probably because they have not read all 200 pages of the Treaty, but rely on their &#8216;Advisors.&#8217; At least some in Australia can see the damage of that plan. Google Alan Jones on 2GB &#8211; he interviews Lord Monckton.</p>
<p>Fortunately there are a few in the world that will stand up to this Junk Science of Al Gore et al and whats more &#8211; Kyoto, while well meaning, made 3% of difference in 100 years time and you can bet that the Copenhagen deal will be similarly well intentioned but Expensive and wrong in terms of bringing any change other than the size of our wallets.</p>
<p>Ignore the same regurgitated Alarmism and listen more carefully, if we can stop NZ being run by the African Countries, and that is the plan under this Copenhagen Deal, then we can manage our own affairs.</p>
<p>Wake up people.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Hair</title>
		<link>http://www.baybuzz.co.nz/archives/1729/comment-page-1/#comment-19029</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Hair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent visit by immunologist and biochemist Dr Stephen Hardy highlighted for me that climate change is a symptom of a much bigger problem; a world view that puts economy as the defining parameter when it comes to decision making, followed by social (human) considerations and finally consideration of the environment. This paradigm is flawed; the impact on our environment must become the overarching concern in decision making, followed by social issues and finally economic aspects. Our human needs (food, air, shelter etc)  are directly affected by the resources of our natural environment.  The Inuit people consider 7 generations when they make decisions; the three generations  that have gone before them, the current generation and the three generations to come. Sadly our decision making usually considers only our own wants. If growers, industry and commerce in New Zealand stopped arguing on the pros and cons of climate change and really embraced the concept of &#039;environment first&#039; we could all walk tall on the world stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent visit by immunologist and biochemist Dr Stephen Hardy highlighted for me that climate change is a symptom of a much bigger problem; a world view that puts economy as the defining parameter when it comes to decision making, followed by social (human) considerations and finally consideration of the environment. This paradigm is flawed; the impact on our environment must become the overarching concern in decision making, followed by social issues and finally economic aspects. Our human needs (food, air, shelter etc)  are directly affected by the resources of our natural environment.  The Inuit people consider 7 generations when they make decisions; the three generations  that have gone before them, the current generation and the three generations to come. Sadly our decision making usually considers only our own wants. If growers, industry and commerce in New Zealand stopped arguing on the pros and cons of climate change and really embraced the concept of &#8216;environment first&#8217; we could all walk tall on the world stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Emerson</title>
		<link>http://www.baybuzz.co.nz/archives/1729/comment-page-1/#comment-19027</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, you know where 3R stands on this subject! 

Consumers and many developed countries world wide have moved beyond debating the science to changing their behaviour. At the same time NZ, who many already expect are world leaders in green, are stuffing around.

We should not be concerning ourselves with the impending costs of the Emissions Trading Scheme. We definately should be concerning ourselves with the loss of credit and international customers when the world realises that we have been selling a story which lacks substance.

We are being exposed, we have our fair share of environmental issues and they simply won&#039;t go away if we stick our head deep in the sand. NZ can benefit from taking a firm lead on environmental issues....Green is the new Gold! 

Now is the time to be bold and when it comes to clean, green and 100% Pure, we&#039;d better walk the walk as well as talk the talk. 

Branding is everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, you know where 3R stands on this subject! </p>
<p>Consumers and many developed countries world wide have moved beyond debating the science to changing their behaviour. At the same time NZ, who many already expect are world leaders in green, are stuffing around.</p>
<p>We should not be concerning ourselves with the impending costs of the Emissions Trading Scheme. We definately should be concerning ourselves with the loss of credit and international customers when the world realises that we have been selling a story which lacks substance.</p>
<p>We are being exposed, we have our fair share of environmental issues and they simply won&#8217;t go away if we stick our head deep in the sand. NZ can benefit from taking a firm lead on environmental issues&#8230;.Green is the new Gold! </p>
<p>Now is the time to be bold and when it comes to clean, green and 100% Pure, we&#8217;d better walk the walk as well as talk the talk. </p>
<p>Branding is everything.</p>
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		<title>By: yvonne lorkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvonne lorkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fizz Fight!
Here&#039;s your chance to test whether the most famous French champagnes deserve their lofty status (and price tags) or are the New Zealand bubblies just as good.  Tuesday 1st December at EIT will see a selection of the worlds elite champagnes tackle their kiwi rivals and you should be there.  The tastings will be conducted blind and the ticket price includes a complimentary glass of wine pre-tasting and delicious nibble afterwards.  There will be only one tasting like this, tickets are $95 and seats are limited so phone Clive Holland on 06 835 2395 or 027 285 5999 or email clivehol@xtra.co.nz to book your place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fizz Fight!<br />
Here&#8217;s your chance to test whether the most famous French champagnes deserve their lofty status (and price tags) or are the New Zealand bubblies just as good.  Tuesday 1st December at EIT will see a selection of the worlds elite champagnes tackle their kiwi rivals and you should be there.  The tastings will be conducted blind and the ticket price includes a complimentary glass of wine pre-tasting and delicious nibble afterwards.  There will be only one tasting like this, tickets are $95 and seats are limited so phone Clive Holland on 06 835 2395 or 027 285 5999 or email <a href="mailto:clivehol@xtra.co.nz">clivehol@xtra.co.nz</a> to book your place.</p>
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